Committee Reports::Report and Proceedings - Defence Bill, 1951::08 April, 1952::Proceedings of the Joint Committee

IMEACHTA AN CHOISTE SPEISIALTA.

THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE.

Dé Máirt, 8ú Aibreán, 1952.

Tuesday, 8th April, 1952.

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 4 p.m.


2. Comhaltai i Lathair.


Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair:—


An Teachta V. de Valéra (i gCeannas), an tAire Cosanta, na Teachtaí Ó Braonáin, Mac Artúir, Ó Colla, Ó Comhdhain, Ó Dabhoireann agus Hilliard.


3. Breithniu an Bhille.


D’athchrom an Coiste ar an mBille a bhreithniú.


(i) Alt 125.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (b), line 6, before ‘leaves’ to insert ‘and without good and sufficient cause.”’


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (c), line 8, before ‘discloses’ to to insert ‘knowingly or negligently’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (d), line 14, before ‘makes’ to insert ‘knowingly or negligently’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (d) to delete all words after ‘or’ in line 16 to end of paragraph.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (g), line 22, before ‘forces’ to insert ‘without due cause.”’


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (h), lines 24 and 25, to delete ‘in search of’ and substitute ‘with intent to’.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontaithe.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (i), line 26, before ‘wilfully’ to insert ‘or without reasonable cause’.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontaithe.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), to delete paragraph (j), lines 28 and 29.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2) to delete paragraph (k), lines 30 to 33.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (k), line 30, to delete ‘irregularly’ and substitute ‘knowingly and without reasonable cause’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), to delete paragraph (l), lines 34 to 38.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In subsection (2), paragraph (i), lines 45 and 46, to delete ‘penal servitude’ and substitute ‘imprisonment’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt, mar a leasaíodh, aontaithe.


(ii) Alt 126.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“To delete paragraph (a), lines 2 and 3.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(iii) Alt 127.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 16, to delete ‘death’ and substitute ‘penal servitude’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(iv) Alt 128.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 21, to delete ‘penal servitude’ and substitute ‘imprisonment’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(v) Alt 129.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 33 to delete ‘penal servitude’ and substitute ‘imprisonment’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(vi) Alt 130.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 38, to delete ‘penal servitude’ and substitute ‘dismissal from the Defence Forces if an officer or discharge from the Defence Forces if a man’.”


Ceist curtha: rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 1; Níl, 5.


Tá:—An Teachta Ó Comhdhain.


Níl:—Aire Cosanta, na Teachtaí Ó Braonáin, Mac Artúir, Ó Colla agus Hilliard.


Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis diúltú don Cheist.


Alt aontaithe.


(vii) Alt 131 aontaithe.


(viii) Alt 132.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In lines 48 and 49, to delete ‘imprisonment’ and substitute ‘dismissal from the Defence Forces if an officer or discharge from the Defence Forces if a man’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(ix) Ailt 133 go 136 go huile, aontaithe.


(x) Alt 137.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“To delete all words from and including ‘if’ in line 30 to ‘detention’ in line 32 and substitute ‘a fine’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(xi) Alt 138.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In lines 37 and 38 to delete ‘dismissal with ignominy from the Defence Forces or’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(xii) Alt 139.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 43 to delete ‘imprisonment’ and substitute ‘dismissal from the Defence Forces if an officer or discharge from the Defence Forces if a man’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(xiii) Alt 140.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“To delete paragraph (b), lines 48 and 49, page 65, and lines 1 and 2, page 66.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


Breithniú breise ar an mBille curtha ar athló.


4. Ordaithe: An Coiste do dhul ar athló ó 6.10 p.m. go 8.30 p.m.


5. Chruinnigh an Coiste arís ar 8.30 p.m.


6. Comhaltai i Lathair.


Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair:—


An Teachta V. de Valéra (i gCeannas); an tAire Cosanta, na Teachtaí Ó Braonáin, Mac Artúir, Ó Colla, Ó Comhdhain, Ó Gallchobhair agus Hilliard.


7. Breithniu an Bhille.


D’athchrom an Coiste ar an mBille a bhreithniú.


(i) Alt 141.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“To delete paragraphs (b) and (c) and substitute ‘(b) if a man discharge from the Defence Forces’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(ii) Ailt 142 go 147 go huile, aontaithe.


(iii) Alt 148.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In lines 34 and 35 to delete ‘or negligently or through other default’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(iv) Ailt 149 agus 150 aontaithe.


(v) Alt 151.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 21, before ‘signs’, to insert ‘recklessly or through gross negligence’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(vi) Alt 152.


Leasú tairgthe (An Teachta Ó Comhdhain):


“In line 27 before ‘flies’ to insert ‘knowingly and without reasonable cause’.”


Leasú, faoi chead, tarraingthe siar.


Alt aontaithe.


(vii) Alt 153 aontaithe.


(viii) Alt 154.


Leasú tairgthe (Aire Cosanta):


“To insert at the end of the section the following new subsection:—


‘(3) Every inanimate thing whatever which is the property of any person, and which either is or may be made movable, is capable of being stolen as soon as it becomes movable, although it is made movable in order that it may be stolen’.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontaithe.


Ceist tairgthe:—“Go bhfanaidh an talt, mar a leasaíodh, mar chuid den Bhille.”


Tharla Díospóireacht.


Breithniú breise ar an mBille curtha ar athló.


8. Athla.


Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 9.50 p.m. go 7.30 p.m. Dé Máirt, 22ú Aibreán.