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IMEACHTA AN CHO-CHOISTE.

PROCEEDINGS OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE.

Dé hAoine, 22adh Mí na Samhna, 1929.

Friday, 22nd November, 1929.

1. Chruinnigh an Có-Choiste ar 11 a.m.

2. I láthair: Pádraig Hooper (i gCeannas); Tomás O hAonghusa, Seán Lemass, Diarmuid O Mathghamhna, Liam Thrift agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha, Tomás Mac Eoin, Seán O Maolruaidhe, Muiris O Mórdha agus Mícheál O hAnnluain, Seanadóirí.

3. Luach Saothair Airi.

D’ath-chromadh ar dhíospóireacht na tairisginte seo leanas do dhin Mícheál O Tighearnaigh ar an 15adh Mí na Samhna, 1929:

“That the Joint Committee is in favour of the introduction of a scheme under which ex-Ministers should receive special allowances.”

Leasú tairgthe (Pádraig Hooper):

“To add at the end the words ‘provided that they shall have held office for a minimum period to be specified.”’

Ceist curtha; do dhin an Có-Choiste vótáil; Tá, 10; Níl, 1.

Tá:—Tomás O hAonghusa, Seán Lemass, Diarmuid O Mathghamhna, Liam Thrift agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha, Pádraig Hooper, Tomás Mac Eoin, Seán O Maolruaidhe agus Mícheál O hAnnluain, Seanadóirí.

Níl:—Muiris O Mórdha, Seanadóir.

Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis glaca leis an leasú.

Leasú tairgthe (Mícheál O hAnnluain):

“To delete the words ‘to be specified’ and substitute therefor the words ‘of two years.”’

Ceist curtha; do dhin an Có-Choiste vótáil; Tá, 3; Níl, 8.

Tá:—Pádraig Hooper, Tomás Mac Eoin agus Mícheál O hAnnluain, Seanadóirí.

Níl:—Tomás O hAonghusa, Seán Lemass, Diarmuid O Mathghamhna, Liam Thrift agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha, Seán O Maolruaidhe agus Muiris O Mórdha, Seanadóirí.

Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis diúltú don leasú.

Leasú tairgthe (Seán Lemass):

“To delete the words ‘to be specified’ and substitute therefor the words ‘of 5 years.”’

Ceist curtha; do dhin an Có-Choiste vótáil; Tá, 3; Níl, 8.

Tá:—Seán Lemass, Teachta; Tomás Mac Eoin agus Muiris O Mórdha, Seanadóirí.

Níl:—Tomás O hAonghusa, Diarmuid O Mathghamhna, Liam Thrift agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha, Pádraig Hooper, Seán O Maolruaidhe agus Mícheál O hAnnluain, Seanadóirí.

Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis diúltú don leasú.

Leasú tairgthe (Pádraig Hooper):

“To add at the end the words ‘such allowance to continue for a period not exceeding five years after their retirement from office.”’

Ceist curtha; do dhin an Có-Choiste vótáil; Tá, 6; Níl, 5.

Tá:—Seán Lemass agus Liam Thrift, Teachtaí; Pádraig Hooper, Tomás Mac Eoin, Muiris O Mórdha agus Mícheál O hAnnluain.

Níl:—Tomás O hAonghusa, Diarmuid O Mathghamhna agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha agus Seán O Maolruaidhe, Seanadóirí.

Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis glaca leis an leasú.

Bun-Cheist, mar do leasuíodh, curtha; do dhin an Có-Choiste vótáil; Ta, 7; Níl, 4.

Tá:—Tomás O hAonghusa, Diarmuid O Mathghamhna, Liam Thrift agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Pádraig Hooper, Seán O Maolruaidhe agus Mícheál O hAnnluain, Seanadóirí.

Níl:—Seán Lemass, Teachta; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha, Tomás Mac Eoin agus Muiris O Mórdha, Seanadóirí.

Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis glaca leis an tairisgint, mar do leasuíodh.

4. Saoraidi Taistil.

D’ath-chromadh ar bhreithniú na tairisginte seo leanas a dhin Mícheál O Tighearnaigh ar an 13adh Mí na Samhna:

“The Committee considers that the system of providing travelling facilities for Deputies and Senators so far in operation has been unsatisfactory, both from the point of view of Deputies and Senators and of the cost to the State, and that the State should take up with the Railway Companies the possibility of providing full facilities for travel in all parts of the Saorstát at the minimum real cost, irrespective of the Railway Companies’ existing scheduled charges.”

Tairisgint leasuithe, fé chead, tríd an bhfocal “Railway” do scriosa amach agus an focal “transport” do chur isteach ina ionad agus tré sna focail “at the minimum real cost, irrespective of the Railway Companies’ existing scheduled charges” do scriosa amach.

Ceist mar do leasuíodh curtha, agus aontuithe.

5. Saoraidi Puist.

Tairisgint déanta (Tomás Mac Eoin):

“That the Joint Committee recommends that each Deputy should be provided with one hundred franked envelopes per month to be used for postal communications arising out of his duties as a Deputy.”

Ceist curtha; do dhin an Có-Choiste vótáil; Tá, 3; Níl, 6.

Tá:—Diarmuid O Mathghamhna, Teachta; Tomás Mac Eoin agus Muiris O Mórdha, Seanadóirí.

Níl:—Tomás O hAonghusa, Seán Lemass, Liam Thrift agus Mícheál O Tighearnaigh, Teachtaí; Eibhlín Bean Mhic Coisdealbha agus Mícheál O hAnnluain, Seanadóirí.

Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis diúltú don tairisgint.

6. Do cuireadh an Có-Choiste ar ath-ló ar 1.35 p.m. go dtí 11 a.m. Dé Céadaoin, 4adh Mí na Nodlag.