Committee Reports::Report - Dublin Cemeteries Committee Bill, 1969 [Private]::17 June, 1970::Proceedings of the Joint Committee

IMEACHTAÍ AN CHOMHCHOISTE.

PROCEEDINGS OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE.

Dé Céadaoin, 17 Meitheamh, 1970.

Wednesday, 17th June, 1970.

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 4.30 p.m.


2. Comhaltaí i Láthair.


Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair:—


An Teachta de Valéra (i gCeannas), na Teachtaí Céitinn agus Ó Riain, na Seanadóirí Ó Ceallaigh agus Eoin Ó Riain.


3. Miontuairiscí ar an bhFianaise.


Ordaíodh: Gan an fhianaise a chlóbhualadh, de bhun Buan-Ordú 80 (Gnó Príobháideach).


4. Breithniú an Bhille.


Bhreithnigh an Coiste an Bille.


(i) An Réamhrá.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 21 to delete ‘City’ and substitute ‘County Borough’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 34 to delete ‘City’ and substitute ‘County Borough’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Cruthaíodh an Réamhrá, mar a leasaíodh.


(ii) Aontaíodh alt 1.


(iii) Alt nua.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“Before section 2 to insert the following new section:—


Definition: ‘In this Act unless the context otherwise requires “the Commissioners” means the Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests for Ireland’.”


Cuireadh agus aontaíodh an Cheist:—


“Go gcuirfear an t-alt nua isteach ansin.”


(iv) Aontaíodh ailt 2 agus 3.


(v) Alt 4.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In subsection (2) (c), line 18, after ‘Committee’ to insert ‘at a meeting thereof duly convened and held.’”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(vi) Aontaíodh alt 5.


(vii) Alt 6.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 35 to delete ‘be disqualified from being and shall’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“To add to the section the following new subsection:—


‘(4) In the case of an equal division of votes on the election of the Chairman of the Committee the member to be elected shall be determined by lot.’”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(viii) Alt 7.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“To delete subsection (6) and substitute the following:—


‘(6) The continuing members of the Committee may act notwithstanding any vacancy in their number but, if and so long as their number is reduced below the number fixed by or pursuant to this Act as the necessary quorum for a meeting of the Committee, the continuing members of the Committee may act for the purpose of increasing the number of members of the Committee to that number but for no other purpose.’”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(ix) Alt 8.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In lines 9 to 11 to delete ‘may authorise the appointment of persons other than members of the Committee to be members of the sub-committees and’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(x) Alt 9.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In lines 18 and 19 to delete ‘of Charitable Donations and Bequests for Ireland’ and substitute therefor ‘from time to time’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xi) Aontaíodh ailt 10 agus 11.


(xii) Alt 12.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In subsection (a) line 51, to delete ‘officer’ and substitute ‘employee’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xiii) Aontaíodh alt 13.


(xiv) Alt 14.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 7, to delete ‘officers or servants’ and substitute ‘members or employees’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xv) Alt 15.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 15 to delete ‘or City’ and substitute ‘and County Borough’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In lines 18 to 24 to delete ‘the Roman Catholic Church, the Church of Ireland, the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, the Methodist Church in Ireland, the Religious Society of Friends in Ireland or the Jewish Congregations or the other religious denominations existing in the Republic of Ireland on the establishment date’ and substitute ‘any of the religious denominations specified in Article 44 of Bunreacht na hÉireann or of any other religious denomination existing in the Republic of Ireland on the establishment date’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xvi) Alt 16.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In page 5, line 25, to delete ‘(1)’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In page 6, lines 7 and 8, to delete ‘or who are or were at any time officers of the Committee’ and substitute ‘or of the 1846 Committee’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“To delete paragraph (i) and substitute the following:—


‘(i) to build, construct, erect, improve and maintain buildings, chapels, monuments, headstones and structures for use or decoration in or in connection with cemeteries or burial grounds’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“To insert a new paragraph (i) as follows:


‘(j) to bury, inter, preserve or dispose of human remains whether in accordance with the rites, services or beliefs of any religious denomination or otherwise’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xvii) Aontaíodh alt 17.


(xviii) Alt 18.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In subsection (2), line 41, to delete ‘section’ and substitute ‘sections’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In subsection (2), line 42, to delete ‘remunerations to any officer or servant’ and substitute ‘remuneration to any employee’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xix) Alt 19.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 48 after ‘but’ to insert ‘with the approval of the Commissioners’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 56, after ‘object’ to insert ‘to be approved of by the Commissioners’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xx) Aontaíodh alt 20.


(xxi) Alt nua.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“Before section 21 to insert the following new section:—


‘The Catholic Archbishop of Dublin for the time being may from time to time appoint, at the request of the Committee, a Clergyman or Clergymen of the Catholic Church to officiate as Chaplain in any of the burial grounds of the Committee and such Chaplains shall be subject to the jurisdiction of the said Archbishop and may be removed by him at any time’.”


Cuireadh agus aontaíodh an Cheist:—


“Go gcuirfear an t-alt nua isteach ansin”.


(xxii) Scriosadh alt 21.


(xxiii) Alt 22.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 14 after ‘being’ to insert ‘appointed in accordance with section 21 hereof’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xxiv) Aontaíodh alt 23


(xxv) Alt 24.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 30 after ‘assignment’ to insert ‘but subject where necessary to transfer in the books or registers of any bank, company, corporation or the Land Registry’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 34 after ‘committee’ to insert the following:—


‘subject to all incumbrances, charges, superior interests and other rights (if any) affecting the same on the establishment date’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“To add to the section the following new subsection:—


‘All property transferred by this section, which immediately before the establishment date was registered in the books or registers of any bank, company, corporation or the Land Registry shall upon the request of the Committee made on or at any time after the establishment date be transferred in such books or registers by such bank, company, corporation or the Registrar of Titles into the name of the Committee.’”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xxvi) Aontaíodh alt 25.


(xxvii) Alt nua.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“Before section 26 to insert the following new section:—


‘Any employee in the service or employment of the 1846 Committee shall on the establishment date be transferred from the service and employment of the 1846 Committee to and become an employee of the Committee with the same rights and subject to the same obligations and incidents in respect of such service or employment as he would have had or been subject to as an employee of the 1846 Committee.’”


Cuireadh agus aontaíodh an Cheist:—


“Go gcuirfear an t-alt nua isteach ansin”.


(xxviii) Scriosadh alt 26.


(xxix) Aontaíodh alt 27.


(xxx) Alt 28.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In subsection (1) (b), line 19, to delete ‘and servants’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In subsection (2), line 33, after ‘the rules’ to insert ‘regulations or bye-laws’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xxxi) Aontaíodh ailt 29 agus 30.


(xxxii) Alt 31.


Tairgeadh leasú:


“In line 45 to delete ‘January’ and substitute ‘August’.”


Aontaíodh an leasú.


Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh.


(xxxiii) Aontaíodh ailt 32 agus 33.


(xxxiv) Aontaíodh an Teideal.


5. Tuarascáil an Choiste.


Chuir an Cathaoirleach (An Teachta de Valéra) Dréacht—Tuarascáil faoi bhráid an Choiste, léadh í don chéad agus don dara huair agus ritheadh í mar a leanas:—


1. The Joint Committee reports that it has examined the Preamble of the Bill, has made certain drafting amendments therein and has found that the allegations therein contained have been proved to its satisfaction.


2. The Committee has gone through the Bill and has made a number of amendments thereto.


3. In considering the Bill the Committee had before it, and considered, evidence adduced and submissions made by counsel on behalf of the promoters, and reports from the Department of Justice and the Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests for Ireland. The recommendations of the Department in relation to provision for the winding up or dissolution of the proposed Committee and the authentication of the seal were not acceptable to the Committee. It felt that provision for winding up or dissolution was not necessary and that the provision already in the Bill for the authentication of the seal was adequate. Apart from these two matters the recommendations contained in the two reports have been accepted and the Bill amended accordingly.


Ordaíodh: Tuairisciú don dá Theach dá réir sin.


6. Críochnú Gnó.


Críochnaíodh gnó an Choiste ar 4.45 p.m.