Committee Reports::Special Report - Seanad Electoral (Panel Members) Bill, 1937 together with the proceedings of the Special Committee::04 November, 1937::Proceedings of the Joint Committee

2. I láthair: Uachtarán na hArd-Chomhairle (i gCeannas); an tAire Tionnscail agus Tráchtála; an tAire Talmhaíochta; an Rúnaí Páirliminte don Aire Airgid; Risteárd Mac Antoine, Seán Mac Coisdealbha, Séamus Díolún, Séamus Mac Gearailt - O Cionnaoith, E a m o n O Cíasáin, Pádraig Mac Giollagáin, Séamus O Mórdha, Liam de Nortún, Liam O Briain, Seán O Súilleabháin agus Pádraig Mac Gabhann.

4. Do horduíodh na tairisgintí ón Aire Tionnscail agus Tráchtála chun Seanadóirí do thogha, agus an scéim i gcóir an tSeanaid do rinne an Rúnaí Páirliminte don Aire Airgid a mholadh, do chur i dteanta Miontuairiscí Imeachta chruinnithe an lae seo.

Ar árdú lámh do fuarthas go raibh 8 mball i bhfabhar na Ceiste agus 6 ball ina coinnibh.

Ar an gCoiste do theacht le chéile arís ar 8.15 p.m., do thairg Pádraig Mac Giollagáin an leasú so leanas maidir le tairisgintí an Aire Tionnscail agus Tráchtála:—

“That the election shall be by a Group of 22, weighted on the basis proposed on page 3 of Deputy McGilligan’s memorandum, none of whom shall be members of the Dáil.”

Do cuireadh ísteach ar an díospóireacht ar an leasú d’fhonn tuairim an Choiste d’fháil ar an gCeist seo leanas do thairg Liam de Nortún—chun cabhair do thabhairt chun an nós imeachta feasta do chinneadh:—

“That the election shall be by a Committee of the Dáil, weighted on the basis proposed.”

Do hiarradh ar na baill a bhí i bhfabhar na Ceiste sin a lámha d’árdú agus fuarthas ná raibh ach 2 bhall ina fabhar.

Do hathchromadh ar an díospóireacht ar leasú Phádraig Mhic Ghiollagáin ansan.

Ar árdú lámh i dtaobh an leasuithe sin fuarthas go raibh 8 mball ina fhabhar agus 7 mball ina choinnibh.

“That the Group be chosen on principles of Proportional Representation, instead of being weighted as provided for in Deputy McGilligan’s amendment.”

Ar árdú lámh do fuarthas go raibh 7 mball ina fhabhar agus 8 mball ina choinnibh.

Do thárla díospóireacht maidir le lucht clár gairme beatha do dhéanamh an toghtha. Do tuigeadh go bhfaghfaí tairisgintí ina thaobh so ón Aire Tionnscail agus Tráchtála agus o Phádraig Mac Giollagáin (mar atharú ar na tairisgintí bhí ina Mhemorandum), chun a mbreithnithe ag an gcéad chruinniú eile den Choiste.

6. Do léigheadh an Dréacht-Tuarasgabháil Interim seo leanas do chuir an Cathaoirleach fé bhráid an Choiste:—

The Special Committee, to which the Seanad Electoral (Panel Members) Bill, 1937, was committed by Order of the Dáil of 7th October, 1937, finds that it will not be in a position to report back by the date fixed, and, accordingly, requests the Dáil to extend the period to December 1.

Do horduíodh, An Tuarasgabháil Interim do thíolacadh don Dáil, Dé Céadaoin, 10adh Mí na Samhna.

7. Do chuaidh an Coiste ar ath-ló ar 10.10 p.m., go dtí 5 p.m., Déardaoin, 11adh Mí na Samhna, mara mbeidh an Dáil ina suidhe an lá san; agus go dtí 8 p.m., má bhíonn an Dáil ina suidhe.

ANNEX D.

(1) Any five members of Dáil to have the right to nominate one, but not more than one, candidate for election. Each proposal to be accompanied by a statement of the qualifications of the person nominated. Alternatively, unlimited nominations by members of the Dáil subject to a provision that not more than 22 members so nominated can be elected.

(2) A Committee of the Dáil, or a Committee of persons appointed ex-officio by law, or a Committee of non-members appointed by the Dáil, to be set up to discharge the following duties:—

(a) Invite applications, from organisations, claiming to be representative of any of the interests mentioned in the Constitution, to be granted the right to make nominations. Determine whether organisations so applying are so representative and should have the right. Decide the number of nominations which may be made by each approved organisation but subject to statutory limitations designed to ensure that the total number of nominations which all such organisations are permitted to make may not be less than “X” or greater than “Y”.

(b) Determine to which panel candidates nominated by the Dáil or outside bodies should be allocated, having regard to the qualifications of such candidates.

(5) In the event of the total number of candidates nominated for any panel being less than the number to be elected, those nominated to be declared elected and the remaining positions filled by the same procedure as may be decided upon for filling casual vacancies.

ANNEX E.

Suggested Scheme for Senate by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Finance.

(1) The Senate shall be elected by the members of the Dáil on a system of proportional representation, or, alternatively, through a Committee of the House elected by the members of the Dáil on the principles of proportional representation. Preferably the Dáil shall elect directly.

(2) The nomination of at least 50 per cent. of the effective nominations shall be by Dáil members, and the remainder by outside bodies or individuals. A Committee set up by the Selection Committee on proportional representation principle will deal with all details as to the nominations, qualifications of outside bodies, etc., and generally the functions previously performed by the Government and such other machinery functions as may prove to be required. The election shall take place from a single panel until all the vocational panels are filled.

(3) The limitations set out in the Constitution that a panel shall consist of between 5 and 11, may, if desired, be availed of to allow the proportional representation transferable vote system to operate more effectively.

(4) The Senate elected shall consist as to approximately 50 per cent. of its members, of candidates nominated by members of the Dáil. The Senate referred to above in all cases means the 43 elected members.

IMEACHTA AN CHOISTE SPEISIALTA.

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE.

Déardaoin, 4adh Mí na Samhna, 1937.

Thursday, 4th November, 1937.

ANNEX D.

ANNEX E.