Committee Reports::Report and Proceedings - Criminal Law Amendment Bill, 1934::18 January, 1935::Proceedings of the Joint Committee

IMEACHTA AN CHOISTE SPEISIALTA.

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE.

De hAoine, 18° Eanair, 1935.

Friday, 18th January, 1935.

1. Do chruinnigh an Coiste Speisialta ar 12 noin.


2. I láthair: Somhairle Brún (i gCeannas), Sir Eadbhard Bigear, Caitlín de Brún, Caitlín Bean Uí Chléirigh, Séamas Dubhglas, Tomás O Fuaráin, Pádraic O Loingsigh, Muiris O Mordha agus Siobhán Bean an Phaoraigh.


3. Do chrom an Coiste ar an mBille do bhreithniú.


(i) Alt 1.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


Sub-section (1). To delete in line 14 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “sixteen.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Muiris O Mordha):


Sub-section 1. To delete in lines 15-16 the words “penal servitude for life or for any term not less than three years or to”.


Ceist curtha, agus diúlta.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


Sub-section (2). To delete in line 19 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “sixteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


Sub-section (2). After the word “and” in line 20 to insert the words “if over the age of eighteen years at the time of the commission of the offence”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Muiris O Mordha):


Sub-section (2). To delete all after the word “liable” in line 20 down to and including the word “or” in line 26.


Ceist curtha, agus diúlta.


Leasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


Sub-section (2). To add at the end of the sub-section the words “and if under the age of eighteen years at the time of the commission of the offence shall be liable in the case of a first conviction of such misdemeanour to imprisonment for any term not exceeding two years or in the case of a second or any subsequent conviction of such misdemeanour to penal servitude for any term not exceeding five years nor less than three years or to imprisonment for any term not exceeding two years.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 1, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(ii) Alt 2.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


Sub-section (1). To delete in line 29 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “sixteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Caitlín Bean Uí Chléirigh):


Sub-section (1). To delete in line 30 the word “seventeen” and to substitute therefor the word “eighteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Muiris O Mordha):


Sub-section (1). To delete all after the word “liable” in line 31 down to and including the word “or” in line 36.


Ceist curtha, agus diúlta.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


Sub-section (2). To delete in line 39 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “sixteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Caitlín Bean Uí Chléirigh):


Sub-section (2). To delete in line 40 the word “seventeen” and to substitute therefor the word “eighteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Lasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


Sub-section (2). After the word “and” in line 41 to insert the words “if over the age of eighteen years at the time of the commission of the offence”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Lasú tairgthe (Muiris O Mordha):


Sub-section (2). To delete all after the word “liable” in line 41 down to and including the word “or” in line 45.


Ceist curtha, agus diúltú.


Leasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


Sub-section (2). To add at the end of the sub-section the words “and if under the age of eighteen years at the time of the commission of the offence shall be liable in the case of a first conviction of such misdemeanour to imprisonment for any term not exceeding twelve months or in the case of a second or any subsequent conviction of such misdemeanour to imprisonment for any term not exceeding two years.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Muiris O Mordha):


Sub-section (3). To delete in line 49 the word “twelve” and to substitute therefor the word “six”.


Ceist curtha, agus diúltú.


Alt 2, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(iii) Alt 3 go halt 8, go huile, aontuithe.


(iv) Alt 9.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


To delete in line 59, paragraph (a), the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “sixteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


To delete in line 1, paragraph (b), the word “seventeen” and to substitute therefor the word “eighteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 9, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(v) Alt 10 aontuithe.


(vi) Alt 11.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


To delete in line 12 the word “seventeen” and to substitute therefor the word “eighteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 11, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(vii) Alt 12.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


To delete in line 18 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefore the word “sixteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loinsigh):


To delete in line 24 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefore the word “sixteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


To delete in line 26 the word “seventeen” and to substitute therefor the word “eighteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 12, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(viii) Alt 13 aontuithe.


(ix) Alt 14.


Leasú tairgthe (Caitlín Bean Uí Chléirigh):


To delete in line 6 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “eighteen”.


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 14, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(x) Alt 15.


Leasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


Sub-section (3). To delete in line 28 the word “fifteen” and to substitute therefor the word “sixteen.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Leasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


Sub-section (3). To add at the end of the sub-section a new paragraph as follows:—


“(c) any offence declared by this Act to be a misdemeanour where the accused person was under the age of eighteen years at the time of the commission of the offence and (inquiry having been made of him by the Justice) does not object to being tried summarily.”


Leasú leasuithe, fé chead, tré sna focail “and (inquiry having been made of him by the Justice) does not object to being tried summarily” do scrios amach.


Ceist, mar do leasuíodh, curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 15, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(xi) Alt 16.


Leasú tairgthe (Séamas Dubhglas):


To delete the section and to substitute therefor a new section as follows:—


“16.—(1) Every person who in any street or public place solicits or importunes any person of the opposite sex for an immoral purpose shall be guilty of an offence under this section and shall on summary conviction thereof be liable in the case of a first conviction of such offence to a fine not exceeding two pounds or at the discretion of the Court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both such fine and imprisonment, or in the case of a second or any subsequent conviction of such offence to a fine not exceeding five pounds or at the discretion of the Court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months or to both such fine and such imprisonment.


(2) No person shall be convicted of any offence under this section upon the evidence of one witness unless such witness is corroborated in some material particular by evidence implicating the person charged with such offence.


(3) The Probation of Offenders Act, 1907 shall apply to offences under this section as if the words ‘or to the prospects of the moral reclamation of the person or persons charged’ were inserted in sub-section (1) of section 1 of that Act immediately before the words ‘it is inexpedient to inflict any punishment.’


(4) The word ‘street’ in this section includes any highway, road, lane, footway, square, court, alley or passage, whether a thoroughfare or not and the word ‘place’ includes any public park or garden or any uninclosed ground to which the public have unrestricted access and each of such words includes a motor car, carriage or other vehicle on the street or public place as the case may be.”


Leasú tairgthe don leasú tairgthe (Pádraic O Loingsigh):


Sub-section (1). After the word “sex” to insert the words “in or adjacent to such street or public place.”


Ceist curtha, agus aontuithe.


Bun-cheist, mar do leasuíodh, curtha, agus aontuithe.


Alt 16, mar do leasuíodh, aontuithe.


(xii) Alt 17.


Leasú tairgthe (Caitlín Bean Uí Chléirigh):


To delete the section.


Ceist curtha; do dhin an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 5; Níl, 3.


Tá:—Sir Eadbhard Bigear, Caitlín Bean Uí Chléirigh, Séamas Dubhglas, Tomás O Fuaráin agus Muiris O Mórdha.


Níl:—Caitlín de Brún, Pádraic O Loingsigh agus Siobhán Bean an Phaoraigh.


Do faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis glacadh leis an gceist.


(xiii) Alt 10 go halt 21, go huile, aontuithe.


(xiv) Sceideal aontuithe.


(xv) Teideal aontuithe.


Bille, mar do leasuíodh, le tuairisciú.


4. Do chuir an Coiste deire le n-a ghnó ar 2.30 p.m.


S. L. BROWN,


Chairman.